The anti-vaccine movement - is it too late?

[JAK]

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The reporting of adverse reactions is pretty poor here. I think firstly, the need to really define what is an adverse reaction and how bad to they need to be to be reported. I haven't found information on that, nor been able to get any from doctors.

I know ds reactions got increasingly more severe, he got up to the 18mth one. The 12mth one was his worst, he got very, very sick. The doctor said it was a bad reaction, and his response was to just take him to the hospital if it got worse. We moved later and next doctor went through his history with me and saw a reaction to something else and refused to vaccinate him. Ds hasn't had anymore, he's had very serious reactions to some common medications since, so he's obviously very sensitive to numerous things.

Despite ds history, I've had other doctors, nurses and others comment on how dangerous it is to not continue vaccinations with him. I find that too many try to create a culture of fear around not vaccinating, use guilt trips to get people to change their point of view - this coming from both sides. Too many people don't listen to the reasoning behind the choices made and automatically jump to conclusions.

[Emily33]

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GPs can report reactions and so can the AVN. I remember reading that the AVN were given permission by the government to report reactions in the late 90s in response to GPs refusing to or failing to do so.

Here is the Vaccine Reaction Report Form that anyone can fill out and submit via the AVN website: AVN

I would like to see compulsory reporting after each vaccine administered in Australia.

[Emily33]

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GPs can report reactions and so can the AVN. I remember reading that the AVN were given permission by the government to report reactions in the late 90s in response to GPs refusing to or failing to do so.

Here is the Vaccine Reaction Report Form that anyone can fill out and submit via the AVN website: AVN

I would like to see compulsory reporting after each vaccine administered in Australia.

[ENR]

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Originally Posted by Emily33

I would like to see compulsory reporting after each vaccine administered in Australia.

I completly agree.

[Emily33]

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Here's a testimonial that I can't ignore - Former Pharma Employee Speaks out about Vaccines: Vaccination Liberation Information

An excerpt of this same interview entitled 'Interview with a Vaccine Whistleblower' was also published in Living Wisdom last year.

[Nyree]

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Thanks for the link, Emily

Interesting that it was a baby dying after the DPT shot that changed his mind - same vax that stopped me breathing as a bub.

[ENR]

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The article is a little scary! It may seem a little far out though so is there any way to prove is validity?

[Emily33]

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Here's the interviewer, Jon Rappoport's bio: Nomorefakenews-Jon/bio which says:

In 1982, the LA Weekly submitted his name for a Pulitzer prize, for his interview with the president of El Salvador University, where the military had taken over the campus.

Who knows. He writes about topics which most media steer clear of. I believe he's not lying and the person who he interviewed - who used an alias to protect his privacy - isn't fictional and isn't lying either. But there's no way of proving it.

It's either a good story or it's the truth. Either way it summarises a lot of the concerns that some people have and why they choose not to vaccinate. I found this interview useful, easy to follow and helps explain, in concept, some of these issues.

[saulylee]

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I only have one very basic opinion as a mother of small children aka 2 month old. Older children that aren't vaccinated have a higher exposure to illnesses at school etc. and then bring them home to small not yet vaccinated children who's immune system isn't quite up to scratch and who may die from complications of illnesses that wouldn't otherwize kill older children and adults. For example whooping cough. This isn't an acceptable risk for me. In saying this my opinion is based on very little research. Sorry for the bad grammar and sentence structure but I'm a little sleep deprived.

[Temple]

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Saulylee, unfortunately most of the children who contract diseases like measles and whooping cough in this country ARE vaccinated.